death's charge mechanics - Guild Wars Forums

dr love · Aug 18, 2009, 04:16 AM // 04:16

i'm looking for some expertise on deaths charge.

death's charge is unique in its shadowstepping ability, as it seems to have several different possibilities of end location. i am wondering if these are able to be controlled, or if it is more random.

here are some different situations:

1. deaths charge to the closest side of your target. this is the usual end location.

2. deaths charge right beyond/behind your target, often this happens when your target is moving towards you, however it can happen when they are standing still also

3. when bodyblocked, it is possible to escape using deaths charge, but i don't know if its due to the way you face, random chance, or something else.

is anyone able to shed some light on the deaths charge mechanics?

IronSheik · Aug 18, 2009, 05:08 AM // 05:08

I never had any luck figuring it out..seems random to me, but I never tested it extensively.

subarucar · Aug 18, 2009, 06:06 AM // 06:06

This skill is very random, I have learnt this while playing a N/A bomber in JQ. Sometimes I will be stepped infront of them, sometimes behind.

saloking · Aug 18, 2009, 06:58 AM // 06:58

maybe its how your foe is facing you, or in what direction your foe is standing. it could also be coded in loads of other ways. or maybe its just random. I've never tested it really.

Fate Crusher · Aug 18, 2009, 09:14 AM // 09:14

If you are completely body blocked and unable to move, you cannot use a shadow step skill to get out of the situation. However this rarely ever happens in PvP(usually it's because you're in a corner). You noticed it whenever i failed at running the Voltaic Spear farm or when i'm blocked in the corner when my team unloads their RoJ.

As for the end location, i see no benefit from where you end up, you can only land a crit on someone from behind if they are running away. plus deaths charge doesn't force a player to move away, it's usually KD or slow. A monk who knows what he's doing would have seen the jump.

Quaker · Aug 18, 2009, 04:18 PM // 16:18

I believe that Deaths Charge, like many spells, targets the point where the enemy was at the time you clicked the spell or, more likely, at the time it starts to shadow step.

It's easy to see this in Ray of Judgment, for example (because of the big spotlight

). You can see that the spell goes off at the point the target was at when you first activated it, not it's current location.

At some point in the spell cycle, Death's Charge picks a target point. It's possible though, that the target moved from there. It's also possible that Death's Charge picks a series of points to get close to the target, but that would influence the side of the target in ends on.
I certainly wouldn't know for sure, it's just a theory, but I can usually predict where I'll end up at. Or, to put it another way, I consistantly end up where I would expect, given target movement, etc.

Aug 18, 2009, 04:16 AM // 04:16	#1
dr love ...is in denial Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Hyperion Guild: starcraft 2 Profession: P/Me	death's charge mechanics i'm looking for some expertise on deaths charge. death's charge is unique in its shadowstepping ability, as it seems to have several different possibilities of end location. i am wondering if these are able to be controlled, or if it is more random. here are some different situations: 1. deaths charge to the closest side of your target. this is the usual end location. 2. deaths charge right beyond/behind your target, often this happens when your target is moving towards you, however it can happen when they are standing still also 3. when bodyblocked, it is possible to escape using deaths charge, but i don't know if its due to the way you face, random chance, or something else. is anyone able to shed some light on the deaths charge mechanics?

Aug 18, 2009, 04:18 PM // 16:18	#6
Quaker Hell's Protector Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Canada Guild: Brothers Disgruntled	I believe that Deaths Charge, like many spells, targets the point where the enemy was at the time you clicked the spell or, more likely, at the time it starts to shadow step. It's easy to see this in Ray of Judgment, for example (because of the big spotlight ). You can see that the spell goes off at the point the target was at when you first activated it, not it's current location. At some point in the spell cycle, Death's Charge picks a target point. It's possible though, that the target moved from there. It's also possible that Death's Charge picks a series of points to get close to the target, but that would influence the side of the target in ends on. I certainly wouldn't know for sure, it's just a theory, but I can usually predict where I'll end up at. Or, to put it another way, I consistantly end up where I would expect, given target movement, etc. Last edited by Quaker; Aug 18, 2009 at 04:22 PM // 16:22..

Aug 18, 2009, 05:08 AM // 05:08	#2
IronSheik Forge Runner Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Wolfenstein: Goldrush Guild: Zombies Go Nom Nom [Nom] Profession: N/	I never had any luck figuring it out..seems random to me, but I never tested it extensively.

Aug 18, 2009, 06:06 AM // 06:06	#3
subarucar Desert Nomad Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: New Zealand Guild: None	This skill is very random, I have learnt this while playing a N/A bomber in JQ. Sometimes I will be stepped infront of them, sometimes behind.

Aug 18, 2009, 06:58 AM // 06:58	#4
saloking Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Dec 2008 Profession: W/	maybe its how your foe is facing you, or in what direction your foe is standing. it could also be coded in loads of other ways. or maybe its just random. I've never tested it really.

Aug 18, 2009, 09:14 AM // 09:14	#5
Fate Crusher Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Pie-land Guild: Warlords Of The Underworld [WoTU] Profession: Mo/	If you are completely body blocked and unable to move, you cannot use a shadow step skill to get out of the situation. However this rarely ever happens in PvP(usually it's because you're in a corner). You noticed it whenever i failed at running the Voltaic Spear farm or when i'm blocked in the corner when my team unloads their RoJ. As for the end location, i see no benefit from where you end up, you can only land a crit on someone from behind if they are running away. plus deaths charge doesn't force a player to move away, it's usually KD or slow. A monk who knows what he's doing would have seen the jump.